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-**Q: Can the CrowBox accept X/Y/Z instead of coins?** +**Q:** Can the CrowBox accept items other than coins?
-A: The current design demands flat, round, metal objects. (Coins, washers, etc.) They have to roll into the machine, and they have to conduct electricity (be metal) in order to trip the coin sensor. That said, the design is open source, so you could potentially alter it to detect other things!+
  
-**Q: How long does it take to train corvids to make me rich?** +A: The current design requires flatround, metal objects like coins or washersThese items need to roll into the machine and conduct electricity to trigger the coin sensor. However, since the design is open source, you could potentially modify it to detect different types of items.
-A: That's not really the goal of the projectso probably a very long timeWe're trying to figure out how to autonomously train corvids in order to change how people think about species that live near human beings, and to learn as much about them as we can in the process!+
  
-//Q: What does the CrowBox cost?// +**Q:** Can I modify the CrowBox to accept other items like trash, bottle caps, or cigarette butts?
-A: We've tried to keep the cost of all materials below $100. Depending on where you source your materials it should cost about that.+
  
-//Q: How long does it take to assemble the CrowBox?// +A: While modification is possible due to the open-source nature of the project, it would require significant redesign, potentially including adding new sensors. Currently, there are no readily available modifications for accepting these specific items, but innovation is encouraged! 
-A: This depends a lot on your experience and materialsWe estimate about ten hours of work (split over a few days to allow parts to dry, etc.)+ 
 +**Q:** How long does it take to train corvids to bring items? 
 + 
 +A: Training corvids isn't primarily aimed at quickly acquiring items or riches; the project focuses on researching autonomous training methods, learning about corvid behavior, and changing perceptions about urban wildlife. Therefore, training can take a very long time, and success varies widely depending on factors like location and individual birds. 
 + 
 +**Q:** What is the cost to build a CrowBox? 
 + 
 +A: The estimated cost for materials ranges from $200 to $300+. This price can vary based on where you source parts, shipping costs, whether you buy in bulk, and any potential upgrades like cameras, mounts, battery, or solar panels. Note that material prices have been significantly affected by inflation recently. 
 + 
 +**Q:** How long does it take to assemble the CrowBox? 
 + 
 +A: Assembly time is estimated to be between 10 and 20 hours, depending on your experience and skill levelThe work will need to be spread across several days to allow components like glue or paint to dry properly. 
 + 
 +**Q:** Is the CrowBox too complex for beginners to build? 
 + 
 +A: Not at all. It's designed as a manageable project, even for beginners. Comprehensive support is available through the community Google Group ([[http://groups.google.com/group/CrowBoxKit|Google Group]]) and detailed build videos on YouTube ([[https://www.youtube.com/@crowboxofficial3322|YouTube Channel]]). 
 + 
 +**Q:** Can I buy a pre-built CrowBox or kit? 
 + 
 +A: Currently, there are no pre-built CrowBoxes or complete kits available for sale. The project is intended for DIY enthusiasts, supported by extensive documentation for home construction. 
 + 
 +**Q:** Is it feasible to place bulk orders for parts? 
 + 
 +A: Yes, ordering parts in bulk can potentially reduce costs, although community follow-ups on successful bulk orders are rare. Discussions about bulk orders can be initiated in the Google group ([[http://groups.google.com/group/CrowBoxKit|Google Group]]). Ponoko also provides links for individual orders that can be scaled up ([[https://thecrowbox.com/wiki/doku.php?id=kit:ponoko_guide|Ponoko Guide]]). 
 + 
 +**Q:** Is anyone willing to build a CrowBox for me? 
 + 
 +A: Finding someone to build a CrowBox for you is uncommon due to the significant time investment required. However, you can always ask within the community Google group. 
 + 
 +**Q:** Will someone sell or give me their CrowBox for research purposes? 
 + 
 +A: The community has shown collaboration in the past. It's worthwhile posting a request in the Google group ([[http://groups.google.com/group/CrowBoxKit|Google Group]]) if you need a unit for research. 
 + 
 +**Q:** Do people have spare parts from their builds? 
 + 
 +A: Yes, builders often have surplus parts because many components (like switches, wires, silicon bands) are sold in packs. You can ask in the Google group if anyone has specific spare parts they are willing to share or sell. 
 + 
 +**Q:** Can alternative materials be used instead of acrylic? 
 + 
 +A: While materials like wood, fluted polypropylene, corrugated plastic, and Sintra (Expanded PVC) have been discussed, the provided design files are specifically optimized for 3mm thick acrylic. Using other materials may require adjustments to the design. 
 + 
 +**Q:** Is 3D printing an option for the CrowBox? 
 + 
 +A: Yes, 3D printing is an option, but there are no official 3D model files (.stl/.3mf) provided. You would need to convert the existing 2D geometry files (.dxf), available here ([[https://thecrowbox.com/wiki/doku.php?id=kit:geometry_files|Geometry Files]]), into a suitable 3D format. The Bill of Materials (BOM) is available here ([[https://thecrowbox.com/wiki/doku.php?id=kit:crowbox2_v20_bom|BOM]]). 
 + 
 +**Q:** Can I monitor or control the CrowBox remotely via WIFI? 
 + 
 +A: The standard design uses an Arduino UNO R3 without built-in WIFI. However, some users have successfully integrated WIFI capabilities using alternative boards like the ESP32. An example project can be found here: [[https://github.com/ahWorkShop/HA_Crowbox|GitHub Repository]]. 
 + 
 +**Q:** Can the CrowBox be battery powered? 
 + 
 +A: Yes, the CrowBox can be powered by batteries. It's recommended to use batteries with an "Always On" feature (like those from Voltaic Systems) because the Arduino draws a small amount of power (~47mA) even when idle. More details can be found here: [[https://thecrowbox.com/wiki/doku.php?id=kit:portable_power|Portable Power]], [[https://thecrowbox.com/wiki/doku.php?id=kit:mod_battery_power|Battery Power]], and in this YouTube video ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq9xL0tjDSg|CrowBox Upgrade - Power a CrowBox with a USB power bank]]). 
 + 
 +**Q:** What food should be used as a reward? 
 + 
 +A: A mix of roasted, unsalted peanuts and baked cheese snacks (like Cheetos) is recommended. However, corvids enjoy a variety of foods, including: 
 +  * **Favorite Foods:** 
 +    * Nuts (peanuts, walnuts, almonds) 
 +    * Eggs (raw, boiled, or scrambled) 
 +    * Meat scraps (chicken, fish) 
 +    * Dry cat or dog kibble 
 +  * Having a nearby water source is also beneficial. See more on site preparation: [[https://thecrowbox.com/wiki/doku.php?id=kit:site_preparation|Site Preparation]] 
 + 
 +**Q:** Can I control the amount of food dispensed? 
 + 
 +A: Not precisely. The current system opens a dispensing window for about 15 seconds, allowing the bird to take what it can during that time. There is no mechanism to control the exact quantity dispensed per interaction. 
 + 
 +**Q:** Does this system work for birds other than corvids? 
 + 
 +A: The CrowBox is specifically designed for corvids (crows, ravens, magpies, jays, etc.) due to their known intelligence and problem-solving skills. 
 +  * **Corvids:** Crows, Ravens, Jackdaws, Rooks, Jays, Magpies - generally successful. 
 +  * **Other Birds:** Species like Seagulls and Starlings have not been observed successfully using the device to deposit items. 
 +  * **Parrots:** While intelligent (e.g., Cockatoos have solved similar puzzles - see [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5YyTHyaNpo|YouTube Video]]), they haven't been specifically tested with the CrowBox. Modification might be needed for non-corvid species. 
 + 
 +**Q:** Does this really work? (Does the CrowBox guarantee success?) 
 + 
 +A: Success with the CrowBox is not guaranteed and can vary significantly. Factors influencing success include your location, the specific corvid species present, and their individual temperaments (e.g., crows can be very cautious). The project is best viewed as an experiment in learning about and engaging with local wildlife, rather than a tool with guaranteed results. 
 + 
 +**Q:** Can crow calls be used with the CrowBox? 
 + 
 +A: Yes, crow calls can potentially be integrated, but caution is advised. Using calls incorrectly might scare crows away rather than attract them. 
 + 
 +**Q:** Can the CrowBox be used for research or school projects? 
 + 
 +A: Absolutely. The CrowBox has been used in educational settings and as a platform for exploring related fields like machine learning or AI, although enhancements developed for specific projects are often not shared back with the main open-source community. 
 + 
 +**Q:** Does the CrowBox incorporate machine learning or AI? 
 + 
 +A: The official CrowBox design does not include machine learning or AI features. However, individuals are free to experiment with integrating these technologies, making it an interesting area for further development. 
 + 
 +**Q:** Is the CrowBox community active on other platforms besides the Google Group? 
 + 
 +A: No. Currently, there is only the google group: [[http://groups.google.com/group/CrowBoxKit|Google Group]]. There is no official GitHub repo or discord….. yet. 
 + 
 +**Q:** Where can I share my build and usage experiences? 
 + 
 +A: Share your pictures and videos in the Google group. 
 + 
 +**Q:** Are there other versions of the CrowBox available? 
 + 
 +A: Yes, since its inception in 2008, there have been various versions and revisions. The project is on Version 2, with multiple updates to the design files (revision 3). Here is a list of known, alternate versions and similar projects: 
 +  * **The CrowBox**, Joshua Klein, USA, 2008, [[http://www.thecrowbox.com|The CrowBox Website]] 
 +  * **Christophe Vieren's Project**, University of Lille, France, 2015, (No longer accessible) 
 +  * **The Crowbar by Crowded Cities**, The Netherlands, 2018, [[http://www.crowdedcities.com|Crowded Cities]] 
 +  * **Corvid Cleaning**, Christian Günther-Hanssen, Sweden, 2013 - ongoing, [[http://corvidcleaning.com|Corvid Cleaning]] 
 +  * **Hans Forsberg's Project**, Sweden, 2020, [[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtkv3wuEP-Veur4iYJWkBgA|YouTube Channel]] 
 +  * **The Magpie Recycling Project**, Tomas and Olof Morsing, Sweden, 2021, [[https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEhPdSIMrLNynfwnkibVzZg/videos?view=0&sort=da|YouTube Channel]] 
 +  * **Crowbuddy**, Gijs-Peter Kuijpers, Date Unknown, [[https://www.youtube.com/@CrowbuddyNL/featured|YouTube Channel]] 
 +  * **Birds for Change**, France, 2021, (No direct link provided) 
 +  * **CrowKit**, Steve Joy, Date Unknown, [[https://www.youtube.com/@4STEVEJOY34/videos|YouTube Channel]] 
 +  * **Nerdfeeder**, Stephen Chasey, Date Unknown, [[https://hackaday.io/project/184754-vending-machine-for-birds|Hackaday Project]] AND [[https://www.instructables.com/Nerdfeeder/|Instructables Project]] 
 + 
 +//Special thanks to Michael Kapp for compiling these!!//
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